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itch time you see them over the years, they are prevalent and plentiful, president obama has spoke very reverentially of nelson mandela, quite obviously, an inspiration to this man that occupied the wilding behind us. >> thanks a lot. joining us now is the reverend jesse jackson. he is in birmingham england tonight, and we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. good to see you, thank you very much. >> yes, sir. >> we have been talking about the parallel lines and apart tide in south africa. what did nelson mandela mean in the civil rights and around the world. between u.s. civil rights struggle and the south african struggle. act the work, he was jailed and stabbed, and killed at 39. mr. mandela struggling he was jailed for 27 years. and choosing reconciliation over retribution. so they both have that moral character about them. mr. obama, on the other hand, he was a benefactor. so he come as generation behind, but dr. kick, and mr. mandela, and and drink king were also trance forty figures. >> we just saw a picture of you, with one of my colleague morgan ratford who got the chan
itch time you see them over the years, they are prevalent and plentiful, president obama has spoke very reverentially of nelson mandela, quite obviously, an inspiration to this man that occupied the wilding behind us. >> thanks a lot. joining us now is the reverend jesse jackson. he is in birmingham england tonight, and we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. good to see you, thank you very much. >> yes, sir. >> we have been talking about the parallel lines and apart...
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came in his very first years he's going to close guantanamo bay within a year and then congress passes legislation basically prohibiting him from doing so so for all the criticism of president obama for not shutting it down it really is congress's prevent him from doing that seems like it's going to be a huge sticking point well let's talk about sexual assault in the military because this was undoubtedly one of the most controversial issues to come up this year there was a proposed amendment by senator chris and there's very little brother until a brand and then also one by senator claire mccaskill those amendments were not implemented as far as i understand but there were some other measures can you talk about that's great. bill would basically take the prosecution of sexual assault away from military commanders so normally sexual assault is prosecuted the courts as it should be with a civilian jury. but in the military there are special laws that allow the commander to weigh in and a lot of victims of sexual abuse it's not fair the commander may be friends with the perpetrator and a
came in his very first years he's going to close guantanamo bay within a year and then congress passes legislation basically prohibiting him from doing so so for all the criticism of president obama for not shutting it down it really is congress's prevent him from doing that seems like it's going to be a huge sticking point well let's talk about sexual assault in the military because this was undoubtedly one of the most controversial issues to come up this year there was a proposed amendment by...
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bush has notably stayed quiet about his succesr in his post-presidential years. dick cheney is out there criticizing president obama often in pretty strong terms. given your coverage of the two men does that surprise you that cheney continues to be now functioning as a pundit from the sidelines? >> he feels liberated. in some ways his argument with obama in public kind of is a proxy for his private argument with bush he had in the latter days ever their administration. >> which he was not free to make to journalists because he had to be loyal to number two. >> he resisted some of the changes that president bush was making in the second term. thought they were a bad idea. compromising on policies he favored. therefore, had to swallow it. by the time obama comes in he adopts a lot of what bush left behind but compromises left behind baked into the system before obama takes over are things cheney still doesn't agree with. when obama makes further modifications it's something cheney will talk about loudly. >> thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks for having me.
bush has notably stayed quiet about his succesr in his post-presidential years. dick cheney is out there criticizing president obama often in pretty strong terms. given your coverage of the two men does that surprise you that cheney continues to be now functioning as a pundit from the sidelines? >> he feels liberated. in some ways his argument with obama in public kind of is a proxy for his private argument with bush he had in the latter days ever their administration. >> which he...
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bald and golden eagles for up to 30 years without penalty. it is called taking in the law. the change was requested by the wind energy industry whose wind farms are responsible for killing lots of thousands of birds every year, including, unfortunately, many of these eagles. and it is -- anyway, it is a terrible thing. turning now to our failing correctional system, our next guest to is here, i think, two weeks ago when we for started talking to about a system of justice that is mocking the very idea of just in proportion of punishment. your content -- here to continue our conversation about what has happened to the fundamental credo of let the punishment fit the crime is a professor of criminal law at the new york law school and the author of the important book, the death the punishment. good to have you back with us. >> thank you. lou: you have spent how many hours, days. i mean, it is incredible. and to see that some of the facilities that are available to our prisoners, if we could start to see some of the video, the places, i mean, runni
bald and golden eagles for up to 30 years without penalty. it is called taking in the law. the change was requested by the wind energy industry whose wind farms are responsible for killing lots of thousands of birds every year, including, unfortunately, many of these eagles. and it is -- anyway, it is a terrible thing. turning now to our failing correctional system, our next guest to is here, i think, two weeks ago when we for started talking to about a system of justice that is mocking the...
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president obama is now going to try, he says, to get fast track again. what exactly is fast track and how does it work? this is the story. once it is in effect congress delegates over to the president the following five separate parties that previously were in the authority of congress. one, to unilaterally take our trade partners. for instance, that is how we get columbia kaj country whenever should have been negotiating a trade agreement with, as they are the number one side of unionist assassinations in the world. one country, more than all the other countries together. our trade partner. only because fast track allowed george w. bush unilaterally picks as country. pick the country, set the terms. fast-track is negotiating objectives. we heard there not enforceable. fast track the created nafta and wto, negotiating objective requiring mandatory labor standards. are there labor standards in math and wto? no. because the initiator can do whatever they want and still the agreement goes down the legislative luge run. there were allowed to sign the agreeme
president obama is now going to try, he says, to get fast track again. what exactly is fast track and how does it work? this is the story. once it is in effect congress delegates over to the president the following five separate parties that previously were in the authority of congress. one, to unilaterally take our trade partners. for instance, that is how we get columbia kaj country whenever should have been negotiating a trade agreement with, as they are the number one side of unionist...
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he's like the man of the year, nelson mandela, the time of all this global strife he still has a role as healing agent, bringing different people together on stage. >> and that's in fact something that mandela's former personal assistant said, tomorrow people should all be honoring their relationship with madiba, if it means shaking hands with the enemy, yes, i would like to see that. that is what nelson mandela was and is bringing people together despite their differences. i guess that's the point is what could be more of a tribute to nelson mandela than people who'd normally would not talk, talking, and i'm not saying they have to be embracing or back slapping or even smiling, but talking. that would, i, might argue, be the greatest trigg tribute to nelson mandela that could you have at a nelson mandela memorial. >> you know how we have our state of the union addresses. and everybody watches the body language. obviously that's going to be a big part of the drama tomorrow is how castro and obama interact, but yes, if you can have a very serious respigectfu talk. we used to call barac
he's like the man of the year, nelson mandela, the time of all this global strife he still has a role as healing agent, bringing different people together on stage. >> and that's in fact something that mandela's former personal assistant said, tomorrow people should all be honoring their relationship with madiba, if it means shaking hands with the enemy, yes, i would like to see that. that is what nelson mandela was and is bringing people together despite their differences. i guess that's...
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that's the second time in 20 years that a sitting president has shook hands with a communist leader. george w. bush and jimmy carter also attended. despite the rain they sang and cheered along through the whole program. ♪ >> three of mandela's 18 grandchildren were greeted with cheers as they stepped to the podium to speak for the mandela family. >> tower over the world like a comet, leaving streaks of light for us to follow. we salute you, mandiba. >> the giant tree has fallen, scattering bright leaves, each indicating messages of peace and love and reconciliation. >> of the wind, of the land, where black and white and rich and poor and men and women and children must live side by side dreaming the same dream, realizing that we salute you. >> president obama got quite the warm welcome. he also greeted the mandela family before he paid tribute to the man he praised as a giant of history. >> over 30 years ago, while still a student, i learned of nelson mandela and the struggles taking place in this beautiful land. and it stirred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities
that's the second time in 20 years that a sitting president has shook hands with a communist leader. george w. bush and jimmy carter also attended. despite the rain they sang and cheered along through the whole program. ♪ >> three of mandela's 18 grandchildren were greeted with cheers as they stepped to the podium to speak for the mandela family. >> tower over the world like a comet, leaving streaks of light for us to follow. we salute you, mandiba. >> the giant tree has...
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. >> at this festive season of the year, mr. scrooge, it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute. >> the idea that a child may never be able to escape that poverty because she lacks a decent education or health care or a community that viewser
. >> at this festive season of the year, mr. scrooge, it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute. >> the idea that a child may never be able to escape that poverty because she lacks a decent education or health care or a community that viewser
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he's like the man of the year, nelson mandela, the time of all this global strife he still has a role as healing agent, bringing different people together on stage. >> and that's in fact something that mandela's former personal assistant said, tomorrow people should all be honoring their relationship with madiba, if it means shaking hands with the enemy, yes, i would like to see that. that is what nelson mandela was and is bringing people together despite their differences. i guess that's the point is what could be more of a tribute to nelson mandela than people who'd normally would not talk, talking, and i'm not saying they have to be embracing or back slapping or even smiling, but talking. that would, i, might argue, be the greatest tribute to nelson mandela that could you have at a nelson mandela memorial. >> you know how we have our state of the union addresses. and everybody watches the body language. obviously that's going to be a big part of the drama tomorrow is how castro and obama interact, but yes, if you can have a very serious respectful talk. we used to call barack obama
he's like the man of the year, nelson mandela, the time of all this global strife he still has a role as healing agent, bringing different people together on stage. >> and that's in fact something that mandela's former personal assistant said, tomorrow people should all be honoring their relationship with madiba, if it means shaking hands with the enemy, yes, i would like to see that. that is what nelson mandela was and is bringing people together despite their differences. i guess that's...
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one analyst says there is chance president obama could resign next year. charlie gasparino with the man who made that call next year. adam: box office where stars that don't deliver despite getting pretty big paychecks. [ male announcer ] here's a question r you: where does the united states get most of its energy? is it africa? the middle east? canada? or the u.s.? the answer is... the u.s. ♪ most of america's energy comes from right herat home. take the energy quiz. energy lives here. >> i'm dennis kneale with your fox business brief. time warner cable incoming ceo rob marcus says he is no your to sell the company. he will run it for the long haul. he would be open to selling out if the price were right. >>> new survey by the national association for business economics finds 62% of economists surveyed expect the fed's bond purchase program won't start winding down until sometime first quarter of next year. >>> new jersey transit offering a special pass for super bowl week. the pass costs $50, good for unlimited travel from january 27th to february 23rd
one analyst says there is chance president obama could resign next year. charlie gasparino with the man who made that call next year. adam: box office where stars that don't deliver despite getting pretty big paychecks. [ male announcer ] here's a question r you: where does the united states get most of its energy? is it africa? the middle east? canada? or the u.s.? the answer is... the u.s. ♪ most of america's energy comes from right herat home. take the energy quiz. energy lives here....
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if in six years now republicans repeal obama care and try to implement paul ryan care and it's an implementation debacle, democrats will say it's worse. it's an easy way to balance things out when you've kind of screwed up your own image. >> it feels like a combination of trolling and working out some deep psychological issues. you've covered the right. is this trolling or psychosis or psychological reaction to disappointment in bush? >> i mean, i would say that if i were president obama, i would say where is my jet landing, where is my flight suit? there is something deeply disrespectful about these analogies when you think about the number of casualties of americans, both in katrina and iraq war. yes, all of us who were literature majors are big fans of metaphor, but there has to be a proportion between a website that has a bad back end and this sort of -- like catastrophes that cost people's lives. but i think the right has to basically come up with a narrative that explains the bush years. and that's basically what we have seen in part with the tea party. we have been -- either it was bush w
if in six years now republicans repeal obama care and try to implement paul ryan care and it's an implementation debacle, democrats will say it's worse. it's an easy way to balance things out when you've kind of screwed up your own image. >> it feels like a combination of trolling and working out some deep psychological issues. you've covered the right. is this trolling or psychosis or psychological reaction to disappointment in bush? >> i mean, i would say that if i were president...
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that have been friendly to south africa over the years, if not the united states entirely. we'll also hear from several of nelson mandela's grandchildren and one of the other prisoners with him. and we'll see quite a spectacle that will be watched by millions around the world. >> absolutely. that sounds remarkable. ron allen, thank you very much for your reporting. stay safe. ahead, the impact of mandela's legacy on our own politics and policy in top lines. first, before departing for south africa, the president honored some of the most respected names in performing arts. it's an evening they surely will not forget. >> when a 22-year-old carlos santana took the stage at wood stock, few people outside his hometown of san francisco into who he was. and the feeling was mutual. carlos was in such a, shall we say, altered state of mind, that he remembers almost nothing about the performance. a can of del monte green beans? ♪ ♪ if i was a flower growing wild and free ♪ ♪ all i'd want is you to be my sweet honeybee ♪ ♪ and if was a tree growing tall and green ♪ ♪ a
that have been friendly to south africa over the years, if not the united states entirely. we'll also hear from several of nelson mandela's grandchildren and one of the other prisoners with him. and we'll see quite a spectacle that will be watched by millions around the world. >> absolutely. that sounds remarkable. ron allen, thank you very much for your reporting. stay safe. ahead, the impact of mandela's legacy on our own politics and policy in top lines. first, before departing for...
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three years of sustained attacks on obama care have failed to shift most americans' views of whether the law helps them. a steady majority thinks it will have no impact or help them. 40% say it will make them worse off. and that number hasn't risen, . in fact, it's dropped slightly since 2010. in the end, i think congressional republicans can keep complaining. we know critics are going to criticize. but starting january 1st, they also have an obligation to ensure americans follow the law. that is the very least people demand from our lawmakers. all right. that's it for me. thank you for watching. and coming up right now, "the ed show" with ed schultz. >>> good evening, americans. and welcome to "the ed show." live from new york. let's get to work. >>> we refuse to let detroit go bankrupt. >> i'm a son of detroit. i was born in detroit. my dad was head of a car company. i like american cars. and i would do nothing to hurt the u.s. auto industry. >> dude, where's my car. >> mitt romney wrote in the "detroit free press," let detroit go bankrupt. in other words, let them die. >> you said
three years of sustained attacks on obama care have failed to shift most americans' views of whether the law helps them. a steady majority thinks it will have no impact or help them. 40% say it will make them worse off. and that number hasn't risen, . in fact, it's dropped slightly since 2010. in the end, i think congressional republicans can keep complaining. we know critics are going to criticize. but starting january 1st, they also have an obligation to ensure americans follow the law. that...
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they've used the defense bill every year since 2009 to stop president obama from transferring guantanamo prisoners to their home countries, even if they have been cleared for release. but now, tonight, republicans and democrats in the house and the senate say the new defense bill for this year will start to drop those restrictions, finally. so the obama administration will finally be able to start sending home some of the dozens of guantanamo prisoners who are cleared for release, who have only had congress standing in the way. that is the plan, at least, the vote should be tomorrow. snow permitting. >>> okay, finally, this is the best one. is it true or is it false that the american singer who is a new international superstar in classical arabic singing does not speak arabic? here she is singing what i am told is a near-perfect rendition of a famous arabic love song. ♪ >> that is jennifer grout, a 23-year-old woman from boston, singing a classical love song on "arab's got talent," a competition airing out of beirut. but is it true or false that this u.s. superstar in classical arabic
they've used the defense bill every year since 2009 to stop president obama from transferring guantanamo prisoners to their home countries, even if they have been cleared for release. but now, tonight, republicans and democrats in the house and the senate say the new defense bill for this year will start to drop those restrictions, finally. so the obama administration will finally be able to start sending home some of the dozens of guantanamo prisoners who are cleared for release, who have only...
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if congress does not act before the end of this year, 1.3 million of those americans will lose their life line, long-term unemployment assistance congress authorized back in june 2008. revisiting the theme of economic fairness and fair shake for american worker, this weekend president obama urged congress to extend these benefits. >> these are people we know. they are our friends and our neighbors. they sit next to us in church and volunteer in our communities. their kids play with our kids. they include 20,000 veterans who serve this country with honor. >> but reminding them of the american social compact hasn't lately been enough to sway republicans and certainly doesn't seem to be doing so now. appearing on abc, gop senator rob portman acted as if helping unemployed was some kind of strange exotic government activity that didn't belong in normal funding discussions. >> $25 billion no one was talking about until the last week, so it's an additional cost within this budget agreement. i think the thought was this would be handled separately. >> but as usual on the subject of fairness
if congress does not act before the end of this year, 1.3 million of those americans will lose their life line, long-term unemployment assistance congress authorized back in june 2008. revisiting the theme of economic fairness and fair shake for american worker, this weekend president obama urged congress to extend these benefits. >> these are people we know. they are our friends and our neighbors. they sit next to us in church and volunteer in our communities. their kids play with our...
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he was going to get it done in the first year and he didn't. latino voters were very disillusioned, brokenhearted. you know that for latinos our word is our bond. word of honor. he broke it. you can't gloss over the. i think a lot of latino voters were ready to run away from obama, but we didn't give them anywhere to run to. where were they going to run to? the guy who was espousing self deportation? the guy who was hanging out with the author of the arizona law? a guy who was -- you know, really not making any effort to win hispanic -- if you look at the romney campaign and that almost, like i stopped wanting to talk about the romney campaign because after all i had electroshock therapy. i've tried to forget it. [laughter] but it almost seemed to me that they made a calculation that they could get a very low, they could get 30%, 29% of the hispanic vote and still win if they got enough of the base vote for the white vote. that just turned -- so they pretty much ignored the hispanic vote. rule number one to winning votes, is asking for votes. i
he was going to get it done in the first year and he didn't. latino voters were very disillusioned, brokenhearted. you know that for latinos our word is our bond. word of honor. he broke it. you can't gloss over the. i think a lot of latino voters were ready to run away from obama, but we didn't give them anywhere to run to. where were they going to run to? the guy who was espousing self deportation? the guy who was hanging out with the author of the arizona law? a guy who was -- you know,...
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first lady michelle obama welcomed children of military members yesterday for a first look at this year's decorations. as always, the first family's dogs bo and sonny are prominently featured in the displays. there are two life size replicas of the portuguese waterdogs made of satin ribbons and these chocolate miniatures of the white house pets in the gingerbread house and it couldn't be a white house celebration without a louvre appearance of the first dogs themselves -- a live appearance of the first dogs, but it was the younger of the two who stole the spotlight with a 2- year-old girl. major garrett has the story from the white house of. >> reporter: it was an event fit for little princesses and princes, sons and daughters of military families decked out in their finest, the very first americans to see this year's out when holiday decorations. amid the choreographed preciousness first lady michelle obama and the first family's rambunctious portuguese waterdogs bo and sunny appeared. sunny encountered 2-year-old ashton gardner and whoops. >> you okay? >> reporter: cory holliday knockdo
first lady michelle obama welcomed children of military members yesterday for a first look at this year's decorations. as always, the first family's dogs bo and sonny are prominently featured in the displays. there are two life size replicas of the portuguese waterdogs made of satin ribbons and these chocolate miniatures of the white house pets in the gingerbread house and it couldn't be a white house celebration without a louvre appearance of the first dogs themselves -- a live appearance of...
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the lowest unemployment rate in five years. is it because of president obama's policies? or inspite of them? >> it doesn't work. let's try something different. >>> on the left, jennifer granholm. on the right s.e. kipp. in the crossfire david madeline, who supports the president, and nancy for then aural, a republican political strategist. is the rover taking off? tonight on "crossfire." >>> welcome to "crossfire" i'm serbs e.cupp on the right. >> and i'm jennifer granholm. today's news about jobs is too good to miss. the unemployment rate fell to the lowest point in five years. auto sales at the highest levels since 2007, a lot of people, especially in the midwest, they should be thanking. . for sarching the auto industry of the the economy is doing well despite the best efforts of republican obstructionists who worked hard to shut down the government, folks with the national deficit dropping at its fastest rate in 60 years? it is time to stop the obsession with deficits and start an obsession about middle-class job creation. >> well, governor granholm, i'm going to give
the lowest unemployment rate in five years. is it because of president obama's policies? or inspite of them? >> it doesn't work. let's try something different. >>> on the left, jennifer granholm. on the right s.e. kipp. in the crossfire david madeline, who supports the president, and nancy for then aural, a republican political strategist. is the rover taking off? tonight on "crossfire." >>> welcome to "crossfire" i'm serbs e.cupp on the right....
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cnn was there last year when he was arrested at the embassy in washington. remember this? to bring attention to the alleged war crimes committed by the sudanese president and he met with president obama to convince him to help the violence there. when george clooney gets involved oftentimes this man gets action. >>> another political issue involving russia, celebrities. the upcoming winter olympics in sochi, russia, and the threatened boycott of these games because of anti-gay stance. elton john performed before this packed audience in moscow and took that moment to confront the issue head on. >> always welcome me with warmth and open arms every time i've visited. you've always embraced me and you have never judged me. so -- i am deeply saddened over the current legislation that is now in place against the lgbt community. it is isolating. some people that because of this legislation, i must not come here to russia, but many, many more people have asked me to come and i listened. >> russia is under scrutiny for its new propaganda law. the band is even talking about homosexu
cnn was there last year when he was arrested at the embassy in washington. remember this? to bring attention to the alleged war crimes committed by the sudanese president and he met with president obama to convince him to help the violence there. when george clooney gets involved oftentimes this man gets action. >>> another political issue involving russia, celebrities. the upcoming winter olympics in sochi, russia, and the threatened boycott of these games because of anti-gay stance....
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i was struck by the moment when president obama greeted his wife. the reality of south africa and his life now. remember, he was elected president 20 years ago next april, but now this country has 25 to 30% unemployment, poverty in the black community, yawning depth between the haves and have not. the president took to the podium this afternoon. there are many people that feel not only has not done nelson mandela but the country has fallen far short of where it should be given mandela's dream for the nation. there's a small group of wealthy class who are middle class, upper middle class, a significant white population here that controls wealth and economy and business community nittany lion country but there are still millions and millions of poor black africans who have not seen much change in their life during the 19 or 20 years of democracy. a number of speakers were referencing how there was so much more work internationally but also here in south africa many were saying as well. there was some difference between mandela's dream and reality here
i was struck by the moment when president obama greeted his wife. the reality of south africa and his life now. remember, he was elected president 20 years ago next april, but now this country has 25 to 30% unemployment, poverty in the black community, yawning depth between the haves and have not. the president took to the podium this afternoon. there are many people that feel not only has not done nelson mandela but the country has fallen far short of where it should be given mandela's dream...
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president obama is among those heading heads of state traveling to south africa right now. the president and the first lady left this morning aboard air force one. they're accompanied by the former president george w. bush and laura bush and the former secretary of state hillary clinton. they'll be joined in south africa by bill clinton and former president jimmy carter and mrs. carter. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is standing by. brianna, what do we know about the president's itinerary and his specific role in the memorial service? >> well, wolf, he will be among six foreign dignitaries who will be giving remarks during what is really an extensive program to take place in south africa honor agmandela. he is on this historic flight to what we're expecting will be the largest gathering of world leaders in their history. we're told by a white house official this is not something he had worked on until he was i guess instructed or invited by the south african government to make these remark at the memorial service. but there's also another sort of historic elem
president obama is among those heading heads of state traveling to south africa right now. the president and the first lady left this morning aboard air force one. they're accompanied by the former president george w. bush and laura bush and the former secretary of state hillary clinton. they'll be joined in south africa by bill clinton and former president jimmy carter and mrs. carter. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is standing by. brianna, what do we know about the president's...
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president obama, reacting to the death of nelson mandela, who died today at the age of 95. of nelsontatue mandela, just outside of the south african embassy under reconstruction right now. there it is. for years, and doug will robinson used to lead protest against apartheid up there on massachusetts avenue, for years. and to have imagined then one day outside that embassy there would be a statue of nelson would be pretty much -- it would defy the imagination, i think. a remarkable man. when he ascended to the he led the fight for the reconciliation of the races in south africa. he and bishop desmond tutu as well, it is meant to to bringing to south africa the truth and reconciliation mission, the idea that we have to forgive if not forget. ande're going to get along have this nation at peace and harmony. iq 96, the south african parliament approved a new national constitution that included a new bill of rights, guaranteeing protections. south africans could never imagine such a thing to stop south africa the first nation in the world to have the rights of gays and constitut
president obama, reacting to the death of nelson mandela, who died today at the age of 95. of nelsontatue mandela, just outside of the south african embassy under reconstruction right now. there it is. for years, and doug will robinson used to lead protest against apartheid up there on massachusetts avenue, for years. and to have imagined then one day outside that embassy there would be a statue of nelson would be pretty much -- it would defy the imagination, i think. a remarkable man. when he...
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president obama supports raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour over the next two years, but not everyone thinks that is a good idea, with some saying it will actually hurt the economy. joining me now, portfolio manager at capitalist pig hedge fund and a regular on fox. jonathan, good to see you. okay, should the minimum wage be increased and should it be the same across the country, state by state, i'm talking about. if not, what would you base it on, market to market, let's start there, jonathan. >> well, wages are not arbitrary. they're not based on whim and feeling. they're actually based on productivity and the demand for supply and labor. so the wages, resulting in job losses, especially among the fast food works working in this job. and the finding about minimum wage was the determination of the labor department back in 1938 when the first minimum wage was enacted. in effect, it is discrimination, it says to a low skilled worker if you can't produce at $15 an hour you can't produce at all. and of course, it says to the employer you can't hire them either. so it is a lose/l
president obama supports raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour over the next two years, but not everyone thinks that is a good idea, with some saying it will actually hurt the economy. joining me now, portfolio manager at capitalist pig hedge fund and a regular on fox. jonathan, good to see you. okay, should the minimum wage be increased and should it be the same across the country, state by state, i'm talking about. if not, what would you base it on, market to market, let's start there,...
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i think as you look toward next year, disengaging from afghanistan become as huge priority. really iran is going to be the big test. that's the scary piece, the big security element. i think it's true. no one knows whether iran will ultimately do what president obama wants it to do, which is basically dismantle any pretense towards a nuclear weapon. >> david, nice to have you here. we'll see you a little bit later. >>> we vel a preview of "meet the press" later. meantime jenna is here with the morning's top stories. nice to see you. >> nice to see you, too. 85-year-old war veteran merrill newman is back in california after being detachbd for more than a month in north korea. north korean officials say he was being held on charges of hostile acts against the regime stemming from his service in the korean war. he was finally reunited with his family in san francisco on saturday after the north koreans deported him. >> it's been a great homecoming, and i'm tired but ready to be with my family. >> a spokane medical examiner is set to perform an autopsy monday to determine what c
i think as you look toward next year, disengaging from afghanistan become as huge priority. really iran is going to be the big test. that's the scary piece, the big security element. i think it's true. no one knows whether iran will ultimately do what president obama wants it to do, which is basically dismantle any pretense towards a nuclear weapon. >> david, nice to have you here. we'll see you a little bit later. >>> we vel a preview of "meet the press" later....
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president obama was 19 years old when he first got involved with the anti-apartheid movement. the first time he gave what being call a political speech was back in 1981. he was a sophomore at occidental college when he spoke out against apartheid. for president obama, nelson mandela was a personal hero and personal idol who struggled his earliest ambitions. >> i am one of the first who grew inspiration from nelson mandela's life. my first political action, the first thing i ever did that involved an issue of policy or politics was a protest against apartheid. >> reporter: they met in person only briefly in 2005 before obama became president. the two leaders, each standing in history as the first black president of his nation, spoke occasionally by phone. president obama penned the forward for mandela's 2010 memoir "conversations with myself." he wrote his example helped awakened me to the wider world and the obligation that we all have to stand up for what is right. through his choices, mandela made it clear that we did not have to accept the world as it is, take we could do o
president obama was 19 years old when he first got involved with the anti-apartheid movement. the first time he gave what being call a political speech was back in 1981. he was a sophomore at occidental college when he spoke out against apartheid. for president obama, nelson mandela was a personal hero and personal idol who struggled his earliest ambitions. >> i am one of the first who grew inspiration from nelson mandela's life. my first political action, the first thing i ever did that...
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move on to "times" person of the year. "times" editors choosing the person of the year who had such an impact or people talked about so much. as for the online poll, we know egypt's defense minister came out on top followed by others such as new jersey chris christie, amazon ceo jeff besos. and yes, miley cyrus as well. friday, lets talk about budget negotiation deadlines for congress. uh-huh. getting it done is going to avoid another federal shutdown. we'll see if it happens. saturday the one-year anniversary of the sandy hook shooting tragedy. one year ago a gunman opened fire in a connecticut elementary school killing 26 people, most of them young children. who can forget that day. i know you remember where you were that moment you heard about it. sunday nelson mandela will be laid to rest, funeral and burial will be on the grounds of the leader's childhood home. they are going to erect a large tent. everyone who attends will be in the hills where he used to run and play as a child. >> thanks. rock band heart has now be
move on to "times" person of the year. "times" editors choosing the person of the year who had such an impact or people talked about so much. as for the online poll, we know egypt's defense minister came out on top followed by others such as new jersey chris christie, amazon ceo jeff besos. and yes, miley cyrus as well. friday, lets talk about budget negotiation deadlines for congress. uh-huh. getting it done is going to avoid another federal shutdown. we'll see if it...
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obama. >> he was in africa earlier this year and has been a couple of times since he left. this is part of the legacy, also malaria, president malaryan, challenges economic development, this was an extraordinary emphasis of the bush years. i think he's given increasing credit for this. when he goes back to south africa, he has a lot of friends on that continent. that may not be true in some other parts of the world but certainly is there. >> michael, great to see you. thanks for being with us today. sunday night, the president and mrs. obama hosted kennedy center honors, tribute to lifetime achievement in the arts. this year's honorees, piano man, jazz legend herbie hancock, famed guitarist carlos santana. president obama called this one of his favorite nights of the year. >> when you first become president, one of the questions that people ask you is, what's really going on in area 51. [ laughter ] when i wanted to know, i called shirley maclaine. i think i just became the first president to ever publicly mention area 51. rocky had no in was gone for so long... ...but he'd
obama. >> he was in africa earlier this year and has been a couple of times since he left. this is part of the legacy, also malaria, president malaryan, challenges economic development, this was an extraordinary emphasis of the bush years. i think he's given increasing credit for this. when he goes back to south africa, he has a lot of friends on that continent. that may not be true in some other parts of the world but certainly is there. >> michael, great to see you. thanks for...
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president obama speaking at the event earlier today. before he did, he shook hands with cuban dictator raul castro. the gesture, the first between an american and a cuban president since the year 2000. >>> this just in, the federal safety hearing for flight 214, they've been postponed thanks to mother nature. a winter storm putting them on hold until the end of the week. the hearing will look at whether the pilots relied too much on computer systems when they approached too low and hit a seawall, leaving three people dead. one interesting note is that the pilots who were flying the plane will not testify. instead the newly appointed chief safety officer will take the stand. the storm we're referring to down in the washington, d.c. area. >>> rescue teams working through the night in the bitter cold to try to find a family that is missing in the mountains of nevada. today an aerial search will resume for james glanton and his girlfriend. also their two young children, a niece and a nephew. they've all been missing since sunday after they
president obama speaking at the event earlier today. before he did, he shook hands with cuban dictator raul castro. the gesture, the first between an american and a cuban president since the year 2000. >>> this just in, the federal safety hearing for flight 214, they've been postponed thanks to mother nature. a winter storm putting them on hold until the end of the week. the hearing will look at whether the pilots relied too much on computer systems when they approached too low and hit...
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"invictus," inspired president obama for years. he spoke, recounting the life of nelson mandela. and robin roberts joins me now, the lessons he taught us all. >> the lessons he taught us very well, george. it was something to see the president actually able to quiet the crowd somewhat. and he knew to whom he was speaking, the south african people there. i thought it was move wheg said, and we think about all the celebrations around the world in remembering this great man, but the president first off said, thank you, south africa, for sharing him with the world. referring to him as -- as the last great liberator of several different times and the power of taking risks and such. i thought it was difficult to try and get all the emotion as we've been seeing all morning long. it is a celebration. there is sorrow. but having troubled to south africa several times, i remember one time i of in -- i was in a-va very poor village. women were dancing. and i said, are they mourning and the interpreter said, no, they're celebrating life. >> so much going on. we're coming up on three hours no
"invictus," inspired president obama for years. he spoke, recounting the life of nelson mandela. and robin roberts joins me now, the lessons he taught us all. >> the lessons he taught us very well, george. it was something to see the president actually able to quiet the crowd somewhat. and he knew to whom he was speaking, the south african people there. i thought it was move wheg said, and we think about all the celebrations around the world in remembering this great man, but...
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. >> both michelle obama and barack obama have said how much he inspired them when mrs. michelle met him last year. >> let's listen in. >> we were talking earlier about the name nelson mandela. the name also madiba. explain that because many refer to him as madiba. >> it's better than mr. mandela or mandela. he actually preferred to be called madiba and i think people didn't know how to refer to him. the sense he was a father figure or a grandfather played in and he was radooted to his south african traditions. a lot of people just blankedly referred to him as tata which is father. when you talk about tata only one really father and the father of a nation but that personal intimate. no, he is my father too. i know when i've spoken to his personal assistant she didn't know what to call him. she said mr. mandela felt too form willal and mr. president was too formal and felt madiba was informal. >> i know you find that too. >> she called him grandfather. this sense of how they embrace him. >> rick stengel who co-authored mandela's biography, "long walk to freedom." did mand
. >> both michelle obama and barack obama have said how much he inspired them when mrs. michelle met him last year. >> let's listen in. >> we were talking earlier about the name nelson mandela. the name also madiba. explain that because many refer to him as madiba. >> it's better than mr. mandela or mandela. he actually preferred to be called madiba and i think people didn't know how to refer to him. the sense he was a father figure or a grandfather played in and he was...
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and made his mark. >> reporter: obama only met mandela once. ever so briefly as a junior senator. but his connection may be the most profound. it was mandela, he says, who awakened him to the wider world. inspiring him to political activism. >> he gave me a sense of what human beings can do when guided by their hopes, not by their fears. >> reporter: in other words, there night not be a president obama if not for nelson mandela. for "this week." jonathan karl, abc news, washington. >>> and we're lucky now to be joined by four individuals who had unique working relationships with nelson mandela. bill keller. dr. gay mcdougall, who campaigned for his release from prison. stan greenberg, his pollster and strategist. and ambassador jendayi frazer. thanks to all of you for being here. bill, let me begin with you. we ended the piece with the relation obama and nelson mandela. and president clinton. they're important but didn't agree in important ways as politicians. >> they are. it's -- was noteworthy that the president he felt closest to was bill clinton because they had more in common
and made his mark. >> reporter: obama only met mandela once. ever so briefly as a junior senator. but his connection may be the most profound. it was mandela, he says, who awakened him to the wider world. inspiring him to political activism. >> he gave me a sense of what human beings can do when guided by their hopes, not by their fears. >> reporter: in other words, there night not be a president obama if not for nelson mandela. for "this week." jonathan karl, abc...
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barack obama spoke passionately about how he was inspired by nelson mandela. >> over 30 years ago, while still a student, i learned of nelson mandela and the struggled taking place in this beautiful land and it spurred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and set me on an improbable journey that finds me here today. and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside us. >> reporter: president obama's remarks were very warmly, i might say wildly received by the crowd here. he had a pause several times to let the applause die down. now the response of president obama was in sharp contrast to the president of south africa, jacob zuma who spoke just after president obama. when jacob zuma took to the stand, the crowd responded with cheers and boos. >> happening in south africa today. thank you bill whitaker. thousands of south africans are gathered to watch the service. mark phillips is at orlando stadium. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. orlando is a different mor
barack obama spoke passionately about how he was inspired by nelson mandela. >> over 30 years ago, while still a student, i learned of nelson mandela and the struggled taking place in this beautiful land and it spurred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and set me on an improbable journey that finds me here today. and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside us....
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through michelle obama. michael is joining us from new york. caller: thank you for your program. influenced -- [indiscernible] from columbia, maryland also on the phone. caller: good morning. i think you are doing a wonderful job. talking, igin will say our country is a great country overall. we are not declining. wet is happinening is that are all in a pot of stew and we money.our heads in our our future and everything is focusing on the outside world, businesses and jobs. our future kids are not going to be able to have a job in the future. it'sno not about who the best or worst president is. through our history we have had good presidents in america. what is going on is that we have our businesses in those countries. come lo tt of people who to this country, they come in here and they take in peoples' jobs. the worst thing is we are not following our laws anymore. call.thank you for the this is another tweeter saying -- bloomberg news has this story based on the economic power of the u.s. and the power vi
through michelle obama. michael is joining us from new york. caller: thank you for your program. influenced -- [indiscernible] from columbia, maryland also on the phone. caller: good morning. i think you are doing a wonderful job. talking, igin will say our country is a great country overall. we are not declining. wet is happinening is that are all in a pot of stew and we money.our heads in our our future and everything is focusing on the outside world, businesses and jobs. our future kids are...
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it is not herbert hoover, it is barack obama. >> it is a 30 year trend. it is a 30 year trend. >> if they want to change this, they have a way to change it. they could do this. there are on a bunch of other things. don't say it is corporate greed, it is inability of political leadership to get anything done. >> it's a 30 year trend. you can't say government is going to make companies pay people more. that's a dictatorship. >> all right. >> they make rich companies pay people more. >> not because the conversation ended, but because i am being yelled at. we have a commercial break to get in. we have to pick this up another time, another place, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> have a good week. >> you, too. >>> millions are being impacted by winter like weather. among them, a country singer talking about conditions in one of the hardest-hit areas. ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possib
it is not herbert hoover, it is barack obama. >> it is a 30 year trend. it is a 30 year trend. >> if they want to change this, they have a way to change it. they could do this. there are on a bunch of other things. don't say it is corporate greed, it is inability of political leadership to get anything done. >> it's a 30 year trend. you can't say government is going to make companies pay people more. that's a dictatorship. >> all right. >> they make rich companies...
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team visited the site in more than two years. president obama said the pursuit of a longstanding deal with iran is as likely to fail as succeeded. forum in washington. iran agreed to temporarily wind back its enrichment which can be used to make a bomb, but also le used in the making of nuclear energy. >> we have to not constantly assume that it's not possible for rain, like any country to change over type of. it may not be likely. if you ask me what is the likelihood for us to arrive at the end state i described earlier, i wouldn't say it's more than 50/50, but we have to try. >> iran, the u.s. and other world powers will meet in the coming days. iran's president said it's a deal and sanctions have already benefitted the country's economy. korea returns home. he speaks after being freed. reunited with his family. >> elian gonzalez speaks out about a request he's making to president obama about his home county, cuba. >> ukrainians ultimate mate um to their president to end the conflict. tÑ >> good morning, welcome back to al jaz
team visited the site in more than two years. president obama said the pursuit of a longstanding deal with iran is as likely to fail as succeeded. forum in washington. iran agreed to temporarily wind back its enrichment which can be used to make a bomb, but also le used in the making of nuclear energy. >> we have to not constantly assume that it's not possible for rain, like any country to change over type of. it may not be likely. if you ask me what is the likelihood for us to arrive at...
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president obama spoke to a standing ovation. >> 30 years ago while still a student i learned of nelson mandela and the struggles taking place in this beautiful land. and it stirred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities, to others and to myself. and it set me on an improbable journey that finds me here today and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside us. >> reverend, senior pastor at ebeneezer baptist church and author of "the divided mind: the black church." welcome. >> good to be here, carol. >> president obama says mandela speaks to what's best inside each of us. many americans don't believe politicians are capable of this. still, it was wonderful to see presidents clinton, bush, carter and obama all together, mourning the same man in the same way. going forward, what do we take away from this? >> well, we witness today, carol, a moving tribute to a powerful and incredible man. the fact is he was more than a politician. he was a politician with moral authority. and that is, perhaps, beca
president obama spoke to a standing ovation. >> 30 years ago while still a student i learned of nelson mandela and the struggles taking place in this beautiful land. and it stirred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities, to others and to myself. and it set me on an improbable journey that finds me here today and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside us. >> reverend, senior pastor at...
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also right now, president obama heading to south africa where crowds are mourning and celebrating nelson mandela. we'll have a live report on the president's expected role in tomorrow's public memorial service. >>> and right now, 85-year-old merrill newman resting at his home in california after spending more than a month in captivity in north korea. he's also sharing new details about his ordeal, including the menu.
also right now, president obama heading to south africa where crowds are mourning and celebrating nelson mandela. we'll have a live report on the president's expected role in tomorrow's public memorial service. >>> and right now, 85-year-old merrill newman resting at his home in california after spending more than a month in captivity in north korea. he's also sharing new details about his ordeal, including the menu.
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i have a feeling that 50 years from now very few people will be talking about barack obama's struggles with obama care, but if stead talk about the remarkable historic place he has in the united states of america's history. >> i think you're right. i think, you know, the gauge a lot of people use what will it matter 100 years from now. i think all of the infighting, all of the attacks that nelson mandela went through doesn't matter in the span of history and the same will happen with barack obama as president of the united states and i think that's what he'll speak to this morning at the funeral of nelson mandela, where he places in history, where he places in terms of the curve of where we saw a nation that was divided and split based on race and based on other factors that really undergirded apartheid and what nelson mandela did to help bring the country forward. all the other stuff doesn't matter. that's where leaders on that stage have to try to govern from. >> he's on that stage now about to eulogyize a man that the whole world will be talking about for so many years to coso. it's
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what went into decorations this year? there has been a military theme, a celebration of those who sacrifice every day for us. >> that's something that mrs. obama keeps close to her heart and it's very important to her. the actual theme is gather round your family, our traditions, our history. and the blue room true does honor our servicemen and there are stars for our fallen soldiers. there are also these really poignant pictures of children reconnecting with their parents as they return from the military service. >> so meaningful. jackie kennedy, i'm sure there was attention to detail there. >> i love jackie kennedy. our fashion icon. here is the secret, her christmas style was a little messy. it was even happen hazard in their private family photo, which are presidential historians give us access to. and then she liked to decorate with miniature trees and miniature ornaments. she had the first theme, a nutcracker christmas. >> fantastic. we see these photos, so candid, in the moment, celebrating that day with the kids.
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and that age bracket is 18 to 29-year olds. these are the people that the kpwoepl -- that the obama campaign went after. >> look at the next one. this is spectacular and this is terrible news for the white house. these are millenials, people between 18 and 24. these are the people who can still be on their parents' health insurance, and yet 52%, a majority of them, millenials who took part in the study, would recall the president of the united states. they're worried about their future. they're worried about the political system. they're worried about the n.s.a. they're drifting away from traditional politics. they don't like the way things are going and if they had the chance, they would recall the president of the united states. >> and they also would probably around the same numbers recall everybody in congress, very disappointed. >> yeah but he's the leader. >> harvard's analysis of the poll said, quote, millenials are losing touch with the government and its programs because they believe the government is losing touch with
and that age bracket is 18 to 29-year olds. these are the people that the kpwoepl -- that the obama campaign went after. >> look at the next one. this is spectacular and this is terrible news for the white house. these are millenials, people between 18 and 24. these are the people who can still be on their parents' health insurance, and yet 52%, a majority of them, millenials who took part in the study, would recall the president of the united states. they're worried about their future....
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obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite interesting. i said, what did you say to him, what did you talk about and what did it mean? she expressed a sense that she had nothing to say. she didn't know what to say to mandela, because with this arc of history, with the sense of being with this man, she found herself just being able to say thank you. that was -- you couldn't really make small talk with nelson mandela. this was a man who you actually -- what can you say? she found that. >> he was so ill at that time, too. >> his hearing wasn't good either. >> he wasn't normally communicating as he might have done before. >> the message outlives the man. that's a big point you're hearing at the memorial today. mandela would want that put first, that it is not about him, it is about the message. the president said, i can't help but think when he was pound the words about what reconciliation means and that just because you don't agree doesn't mean you don't work together and the need for argument and ideas, that that wasn't for a wider audience
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obama's policies have made things worse. if we want to make that argument we can make that argument. but it's harder for us. it does not help us, i don't think with swing voters to say we'll do you guys a favor and cut off all your unemployment benefits. >> i don't think that helps. i'm just thinking it doesn't. >> it's not a good message. steve, your first chart on the minimum wage is 7.25 right now. let's say you get 40 hours a week, 52 weeks that comes to $15,000 a year which puts you below the poverty line. >> one of the ways people are pushing back on this perfect storm against people at the bottom is by focusing on the minimum wage. the minimum wage is $7.25 as you see here on this chart. which is not oddly enough the lowest. these are all inflation adjusted. they go back to the 1960s. in the 1960s it was $9.50. went down in the '80s. oddly enough it was president bush's administration that pushed a three step increase that took it back up to $7.25. it's been declining in real terms since then. but because of what we'v
obama's policies have made things worse. if we want to make that argument we can make that argument. but it's harder for us. it does not help us, i don't think with swing voters to say we'll do you guys a favor and cut off all your unemployment benefits. >> i don't think that helps. i'm just thinking it doesn't. >> it's not a good message. steve, your first chart on the minimum wage is 7.25 right now. let's say you get 40 hours a week, 52 weeks that comes to $15,000 a year which...
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it went up by a multiple this year because of all the provisions of obama care health care so much more expensive in this country. so it is getting harder and harder for to us offer tower employees. >> how many do you have? >> we've got five videos online. >> if you go to youtube, you put in generation opportunity. >> they can follow us at jen opportunity on twitter or follow us on facebook. we continue to push out more and more fun content. >> how many following out twitter? >> just under 10,000 now and we've got well over 2 million that follow us on facebook. >> nice to see you. i'll go check out this other video. thank you. >> now to president obama's promise that if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. now, we know that is not true. but that is not stopping heated debate. >> what they said was if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, your insurance policy and it was a lie. >> the president never said you would have unlimit choice of any doctor in the country. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. >> if you want to pay more for an insu
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for years, south africans have shared nelson mandela with the world. today the world came here to say goodbye. strains of south africa's national anthem, a song in five languages, diverse and beautiful, like the country itself. a fitting beginning to it a service honoring south africa's greatest son. >> to celebrate the life of a hero. . >> reporter: the memorial held as rain fell in the continent of africa. leaders the world over converged here, more than 70 in all. the delegation from the united states led by president obama, included former presidents george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter. the measure of mandela so great, america's presidents shared a stage with cuban leader, castro. >> for peace without, for peace within. >> reporter: after interfaith prayers, the tributes began. first, andrew melangani, whose cell on robert island was next to mandela's. >> my heart, my soul, my life. >> reporter: then members of mandela's family spoke, including four of his grandchildren. >> it's all over the world like a comet. >> reporter: president obam
for years, south africans have shared nelson mandela with the world. today the world came here to say goodbye. strains of south africa's national anthem, a song in five languages, diverse and beautiful, like the country itself. a fitting beginning to it a service honoring south africa's greatest son. >> to celebrate the life of a hero. . >> reporter: the memorial held as rain fell in the continent of africa. leaders the world over converged here, more than 70 in all. the delegation...